Pro-life leader Lila Rose caught the attention of millions of people online this week when she defended abstinence until marriage and monogamy on a popular dating podcast.
In one clip from the “Whatever” podcast May 9, Rose called out another guest, Justin Waller, for defending hookup culture and questioned his lack of self control when it comes to sex. A video clip of their exchange has nearly 10 million views just on Twitter.
Rose, the president and founder of the pro-life organization Live Action, began by challenging Waller to re-think his lifestyle of having sex with multiple women, noting his desire to have children someday.
“If you have only one place in your heart for one woman, or you want to have one place in your heart for one woman, I think you said, why don’t you just commit to one and choose to be faithful to her?” she asked.
Waller responded: “I’m just not wired that way. … I spent my whole 20s trying to fix myself.”
But Rose pressed further, asking why he exercises self control in other areas of his life but not sex.
“You work out, you do business. You possess your own power and direct it the way you want to direct it,” she said.
When Waller told her, “It’s not how I am,” Rose posed another question, “Don’t you think that’s a limited mindset?”
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The question angered Waller and he lashed out at Rose, telling her: “I don’t want you to think I’m triggered by you. I’m not. … I think you’re annoying, but I’m not triggered. You’re annoying in like this goody-two-shoes type way, and that’s fine. I’m going to live my life on my terms, unapologetically, truly, so you can ask me this 85 different ways. At the end of the day, I’m going to walk out of here the same man.”
Their short exchange during the three-hour podcast went viral on social media. But Rose offered a number of compelling arguments about marriage and sex throughout the podcast.
During another exchange, when a female guest defended “group sex,” Rose questioned the impact of the woman’s infidelity years down the road.
“I truly believe we get to have the desires of our heart,” the woman told Rose about her desire to have sex with multiple partners at once.
Rose responded by reminding the woman that everyone faces difficult times at some point in their life, maybe sickness or a terrible accident, and individuals need others to love them with a faithful, committed love in those times.
“That’s where the power of love comes in, a love that doesn’t leave, a love that isn’t based on feelings or desire, but a love that’s based on choice,” Rose said. “And I think deep down we’re all wired for that. … I think deep down we want a love that stays, a love that lasts, and it is possible for everyone.”
After the podcast, Rose responded on Twitter to claims that she was “humiliating” the other guests.
“It’s never about humiliation but understanding and truth,” Rose said.
Watch more from the podcast here.