Hillary Clinton joined PBS’s Amanpour and Company on Thursday to preview the Clinton Presidential Center’s upcoming summit on the status of women’s rights around the world. For the former Secretary of State, the state of women’s rights in Iran, in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and in Ukraine where Russian soldiers use rape as a weapon is analogous to Arkansas, where pro-lifers run the state government. For host Christiane Amanpour, this was a completely normal thing to say.
Amanpour began the interview by asking Clinton her thoughts on the “unfinished business” of women’s rights.
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This led Clinton to proclaim that much progress has been made, “But we are also in a period of time where there is a lot of pushback and much of the progress that has been, I think, taken for granted by too many people is under attack. Literally under attack in places like Iran or Afghanistan or Ukraine where rape is a tactic of war, or under attacks by political and cultural forces in a country like our own when it comes to women’s health care and bodily autonomy.”
Instead of halting the conversation because one of those things is not like the others, Amanpour wanted to focus on pro-lifers, “We’re going to go around the world with you in a second. But first, about — precisely what you’re talking about and where you are. Arkansas itself, I believe, rapidly moved to make a woman’s right to choose illegal in your state or your former home state and you are hosting this conference. Talk to me about the confluence of both these events. This pushback on American women’s rights at the same time as you’re trying to figure a way forward.”
After using the opportunity to promote the summit, Clinton expressed some hope over “what we’ve seen particularly since the Dobbs decision across our country is that when voters, both men and women, but led by women have a chance to vote on these draconian abortion restrictions. They do not accept them. They overturned them. They certainly want to limit the reach of the government into the most intimate, private parts of our life.”
Following some more self-promotion, Amanpour lamented that the two were even having this conversation in 2022, “But, I mean, how much persuasion can we expect when it comes to our — and I’m speaking as a woman, basic rights. Whether it’s in the United States or around the world. As you said, they are human rights. At what point should these be enshrined even in the American law and Constitution even. I mean, I’m probably exaggerating. But it’s extraordinary in 2022 that this basic right of women, half the world’s population is still at risk.”
Clinton responded by hyping the recently passed gay marriage bill, before turning to abortion-related fearmongering, “So, we’ll see what happens in states like Arkansas and so many others when we face real world problems. As we have seen already where women with miscarriages go in for medical care and are turned away. When maybe, God forbid, a woman dies because that health care is denied her.”
If those women are being denied medical care, it isn’t because of the laws. It’s because people like Clinton and Amanpour misrepresent them leading to unnecessary panic.
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